Chick Webb

Heritage Sounds and the Lindy Focus Transcription Project – Perspectives in Sheet Music Publishing Licensing

Al Cooper, the bandleader of the moment

As we are in the midst of a fourth crowd-funding campaign to transcribe and make available the charts of Black bandleaders and their bands from the swing era, with Al Cooper and the Savoy Sultans as the band for 2023, I wanted to take a moment and highlight the importance of this work and the legal hurdles that often prevent this music from being more widely available and prevent these venerable musicians from being better known by the public. United States copyright law has catered to corporations and their lobbyists (particularly a certain dynastic purveyor of cartoon princesses, endearingly silly critters, and acquirer of a certain multiverse), extending the copyright term well beyond what is beneficial to the artist, focusing on corporate ownership, to the detriment of the public domain. We are dancers of historic American vernacular dances, some approaching an age that would be considered antique if a piece of furniture, and yet we struggle for this music to be available for live performance, competition videos on YouTube, and other media that would benefit from this music being in the public domain.

As a broad generality, for works created after January 1, 1978, copyright protection lasts for the life of the author plus 70 years. Contrast this with Article I, Section 8, Clause 8 of the United States Constitution: “[The Congress shall have Power . . . ] To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.” In 1790, Congressmen interpreted this to mean 14 years with a potential 14 year renewal, for a total of 28 years. I won’t go into the details of how we went from 14 years to a life (which continues to get longer as medical science evolves) + 70 years, but the only limitation is Congress’s willingness to make the term itself as a limitation (as opposed to copyright in perpetuity), not that the time is particularly limited in its duration

At this point, almost all of the music from the swing era is controlled by corporations and very little of the money is actually going to the artist’s family. None of these artists are alive.

When we embarked on the first transcription project in 2016, to create enough charts for a night of live music and dancing to the Chick Webb Orchestra’s songbook at Lindy Focus, I knew it would be a lot of work to obtain licenses to be able to subsequently publish the sheet music for 30+ songs on the Heritage Sounds website. I did not anticipate the extent of what this meant and how difficult this particular music would be to license. Here is an overview of the steps I took to obtain these licenses:

1. Research the copyright – determine who wrote the song and whether that song is still under copyright. For works published or registered between 1923 and 1977, the maximum copyright duration is 95 years from the date of publication, if copyright was renewed during the 28th year following publication. Since it was 2016 at the time I started this research, if it was written before 1923, the assumption was that the song is in the public domain; if 1923 or after, the assumption was that it was under copyright. When 2019 rolled over, the public domain date went up to 1924 and has continued to proceed without corporate pressure for Congress to enact a new copyright extension. We are now up to works published prior to January 1, 1928 having come into the public domain. The Music Modernization Act is supposed to create a database to help with this kind of research, but since that is still only a concept at this point (that I’m aware of), I would dig through the usual websites to try to determine the creator of the work. I usually start with the Harry Fox database, then move on to ASCAP and BMI, then I do internet searches if those sources fail. Sometimes the liner notes on CDs or records will have helpful information. As of the writing of this blog post, my most recent research found that ASCAP and BMI have combined their searches, so I can use the ASCAP search for both and not have to input queries into two separate websites.

2. Locate the entity that does the music publishing licensing – this is probably the most frustrating part.  Start with the databases at Hal Leonard and Alfred Music – between these two companies, it’s likely that most of what you are seeking to license is controlled by one of these two companies.  If the song you are researching is not in either of these databases, you will have to track it down – no one ever posts information about who does their music publishing licensing, but there is usually information available about who controls the mechanical licensing.  This means that I am web-form-submitting, emailing, and/or calling (or all three) and leaving a message asking who does the music publishing licensing.  Be persistent, someone in these big conglomerates has this information, you just have to figure out who.

3. Determine the parameters of your license – keep in mind that the copyright holder takes 50% of the sales price and, in most cases, the licensee has to pay that 50% upfront for the number of copies you are seeking to obtain permission to sell. It is difficult to figure out how many copies you plan to sell, but more often the consideration is what you can afford in terms of the number of licenses.  Sometimes the licenses will require an annual or bi-annual accounting, but those licenses are in the minority.  Sometimes these middlemen will put a time frame on the license, to incentivize you to sell your copies within that time frame.  A license for digital copies is more cost-effective than a license for paper copies.  You will probably want to limit the scope of your selling, for the purposes of obtaining licenses, to the US, as international distribution is likely to cost more.  The cost is determined by the market and whatever you negotiate – we wanted to keep the cost of the charts pretty low, so I researched charts on several websites and arrived at $30/chart (as compared to the Essentially Ellington charts at $50 a pop).  

Her hopeful face glazed over as she was sent to yet another voicemail inbox…

4. Request a license – Hal Leonard and Alfred Music have online web forms where you submit your request. Others you will have to email with your information – tell them you want a license for X song, written by Y composer(s), to sell Z number of copies priced at $ to sell digital copies in the US. That should be enough to get the ball rolling. The important thing to note is that they don’t have to give you a license – unlike bands who record cover songs, there is no compulsory license for sheet music publishing rights. Heritage Sounds has definitely been denied publishing rights, which seems wild given that licensees are paying up-front for most of these licenses – why would copyright owners refuse cash in hand? Everyone except Hal Leonard has granted me the licenses I have sought on behalf of Heritage Sounds. Though Hal has given us some licenses, they have tended to keep everything at arm’s length, while everyone else I have encountered has been personable, helpful, and responsive to my questions as I navigated this terrain. The time frame varies – sometimes I can get a license within a few weeks; typically, it has taken Hal Leonard 6 months or longer to even respond to my initial request (even though their website lists a much shorter time frame). I still have many outstanding inquiries that have received no response, from Hal Leonard and others, over the course of the three prior transcription projects (Jimmie Lunceford, Lionel Hampton, and the aforementioned Chick Webb).

5.  Review license carefully – read the agreement carefully to ensure you aren’t signing too many rights away to someone and don’t be afraid to ask questions.  Most of these companies have a standard license; in some cases, I have had to draft my own. Once the license is executed, review the terms again and make notes about any actions you need to take, such has time frames for licensing or accounting, notice requirements for what information you need to put on the published sheet music, etc. Managing these licenses, their different time tables, payees, methods of payment, etc. is a meticulous, time-consuming task, one that we should all thank Jaya Dorf for managing.

6. Not every song can be found – sometimes there’s nothing. Sometimes there’s partial information, but not enough to connect you with a composer, lyricist, and/or copyright holder. Sometimes there’s conflicting information. In these instances, I advised the group to hold the owner’s 50% portion of sales for these songs in escrow, should a copyright owner surface.

Patience and organization are key – there was definitely a tracking spreadsheet updated every time I sat down to work on these licenses. Each year builds on the next, as the previously negotiated licenses expire and you may need to seek a renewal, which involves more waiting and creates more work to maintain a catalog of charts.

At this point, I have put in close to 100 hours of work on this project. If you were to pay an attorney do this work and that attorney received the same hourly rate that my employer at the time charged clients for my services, that comes out to $30,000. With Heritage Sounds recouping $15 per chart sold, that would mean having to sell more than 2,000 charts (because taxes) to pay for the legal services to keep this project running. The math does not add up for this to be anything but a labor of love.

But we do love this music and have a mission to make it more accessible for live performance. This music should be celebrated, for its exuberance, its creativity, as a historical marker, and for its contribution to the genre of jazz and other art forms. I wish that more of this licensing money would go to people of color, rather than the corporations who have the resources to either buy out these catalogs (and, in many cases, sit on them) or, as often occurred in the swing era, swindle/negotiate/steal the copyright from the artists creating these works (I’m looking at you, Irving Mills, and everyone who took advantage of Fats Waller when he needed money for alimony). My hope is, as this music slowly comes into the public domain in the next couple of decades, that the focus will remain on the contributions of Black jazz musicians, lyricists, arrangers, and bandleaders; that history will represent them as at least as significant as their white contemporaries; and that we will find more ways to ensure that our resources lift up the Black voices of the swing era.

So where do we go from here with Heritage Sounds? We’ll have to take it one year at a time, one project at a time. We started with a lot of ambition, but the amount of work and the global pandemic slowed things down a bit. Whatever happens, I’ll be along for the ride.

Lindy Focus XVIII Videos

Always a huge highlight on my calendar, Lindy Focus did not disappoint this year.  I performed at each main dance with the Jonathan Stout Lindy Focus All-Star Orchestra, but also did two late night dances – one with Michael Gamble and the Rhythm Serenaders and another with Gordon Au‘s tribute to the Louis Armstrong All-Stars.  Dance performances kicked off each late night social dance, with the performers having the option of doing a routine with the live band of the night.  I was delighted to be a part of three of these late night performances: first, with the Rhythm Serenaders performing Mildred Bailey’s “Lover Come Back to Me” with Peter Kertz and Elze Visnevskyte dancing; second and third with Au’s Armstrong tribute, performing “Squeeze Me” and “All That Meat and No Potatoes” with co-vocals by Jim Ziegler and a cast of Lindy Focus instructors and performers.

I’m posting the three late night performances below.  If you’re looking for a nice, long listen, you can revisit the live stream broadcasts for each of 5 nights of big band music (Basie, Ellington, Webb, Hampton, and anything goes on NYE) on the Lindy Focus YouTube channel.

Lindy Focus Live Streams

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Chick Webb night 2018, thanks to the fab Hilary Mercer Photography

My biggest recurring gig of the past few years is definitely Lindy Focus – five nights of big band music with the Jonathan Stout Lindy Focus All Star Orchestra, with new songs added each year and, for the past three years, an entirely new bandleader’s night of music is performed, thanks to crowd funding from our stellar community of swing music supporters.  This year’s lineup from start to finish was Jimmie Lunceford (crowd funded in 2017), Benny Goodman, Lionel Hampton (crowd funded in 2018), Chick Webb (crowd funded in 2016), and “Kitchen Sink Night” on New Year’s Eve, featuring an array of swing era arrangements.  All of the main dances are Lindy Focus are live streamed on YouTube, which means you can always go back and listen to the music from each night of dancing later!  Here are all the live streams from December 27 through December 31, 2018 – I’m featured, in some way or another, as a vocalist on each night, with a vocal trio on Lunceford night and as a featured vocalist on the other four nights.  Put some on while you’re doing chores or on a long drive for some toe-tapping tunes!

Big Band Revival: Lionel Hampton – Indiegogo Campaign to Fund Chart Transcriptions

42658367_2120897154829766_4192294711219716096_nIt’s live!  This year’s Big Band Revival transcription project bandleader is Lionel Hampton and we’re excited to announce that the song lineup will be three sets of big band tunes and two sets of small group tunes – more music for your listening ears, more bang for your buck in terms of contributing to the project.  If you’re not familiar with the past transcription projects (Chick Webb and Jimmie Lunceford), here’s the abbreviated version:

  1. A lot of this music that we love from the swing era isn’t available in chart form to purchase for big bands to perform.
  2. This Indiegogo campaign goes to fund the transcription of the songs listed in the campaign (and the associated music publishing licensing fees), usually 30 songs, which equates to an entire night of big band swing music for the length of a swing dance; this year there are two extra sets of small group material included.  Fund as little or as much as you like – get some swag or fund an entire song of your choice.  You can listen to all the songs that are a part of this project here.
  3. These charts will be performed at Lindy Focus on December 29 – if you can’t attend in person, there’s a live stream on YouTube
  4. Licenses will be pursued for these charts to be published and available for purchase at a reasonable cost on the Heritage Sounds website for you and/or your local swing/big band to perform for your dancing and listening pleasure.

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I am personally excited to be delving into the songs performed by Dinah Washington, who appeared with Lionel Hampton’s Orchestra in the 1940’s.  Dinah never recorded any records with Lionel’s orchestra (she did with his small groups), but a number of air check recordings exist of varying audio quality – I’m excited that these big band charts will be getting a second chance, to be heard in greater fidelity, and maybe someone will even record them someday!

Thank you in advance and thanks to everyone who has already donated – the music means so much to all of us, it’s amazing that this level of support exists from all of you who love swing music and want live swing music to continue to be a part of your lives.

School of Hard Knox – March 23-24, 2018

22730119_1423315634384476_5301930625398209716_nI’ll be Knoxville-bound soon enough, but this is an extra special weekend because Michael Gamble and the Rhythm Serenaders Orchestra will have its debut performance at the Saturday night main dance at School of Hard Knox!  If you’ve been following the transcriptions projects and Indiegogo.com campaigns for Chick Webb, Jimmie Lunceford, and (soon to be launched) Lionel Hampton, you’ll know that Michael has spearheaded this endeavor and has all these great big band charts that should really continue to be heard outside of once a year at Lindy Focus.  It is my understanding that his new orchestra will be a showcase for these charts and bandleaders, so that more people can hear them, learn about them, and spread the love to other bandleaders, educators, music lovers, dancers, really anyone who may take an interest in this music.  Michael will probably also have some other things up his sleeve, so this will, at least in part, be a surprise for me as well!

If you are interested in learning more about what charts are available right now, visit the Heritage Sounds website – we are still in the process of clearing licenses for many more arrangements (which takes a long time), so stay tuned!

If you are interested in dancing, come take classes and dance at School of Hard Knox – there’s a stellar instructor lineup for the weekend, great DJs, and shenanigans to be had!

Fall 2017

There’s a nice mix of performances coming up, a little dancing, a little listening, a little of both – hope to see you at one of these upcoming dates!

September 29-30, 2017 with Michael Gamble and the Rhythm Serenaders at Classic City Swing, Athens, GA – a wonderful workshop weekend at the University of Georgia, it will be a mix of visiting with family and performing with this swingin’ band.

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MJJB at the Duck Jazz Festival in 2015

October 7, 2017 Mint Julep Jazz Band at the Duck Jazz Festival, Duck, NC – the festival is expanding to add a performance on Saturday afternoon (us!) with a swing dance lesson between sets, come join us on the coast for this wonderful festival with enthusiastic jazz fans.

October 8, 2017 Ella at the Savoy: A Centennial Tribute, UNC’s Kenan Music Building rehearsal hall, Chapel Hill, NC – one of my pet projects honoring the unparalleled Ella Fitzgerald and her early work with the Chick Webb Orchestra and with Ella Fitzgerald and her Famous Orchestra.

October 19, 2017 Mint Julep Jazz Band at the North Carolina State Fair, Raleigh, NC – this is not only our first performance at the State Fair, but my first time ever at the State Fair!  As a lifelong North Carolinian, I’m looking forward to finally being able to attend.

October 20-21, 2017  Mint Julep Jazz Band at Jammin’ on the James, Richmond, VA – excited to be performing for the first time with the Mint Julep Jazz Band at an event that is near and dear to my heart.  My very first workshop weekend as a baby Lindy Hopper was at JOTJ and organizers Rita Shiang and Andy Nishida put on a top notch event, now in its 15th year.

Big Band Revival: Jimmie Lunceford

20245792_1883076361945181_6443729510126131418_nIn the second installment of transcribing arrangements for an entire night dance music from one swing era bandleader, Jimmie Lunceford is on deck and the Indiegogo campaign is live to raise the funds to transcribe all these arrangements and then make them available to the public for bandleaders to purchase for their own bands to perform (or, as in some cases, for dance communities to purchase for their local big band to perform!)   Michael Gamble covers a lot of bases in the video (posted below and in the Indiegogo campaign, about how the Chick Webb project worked from start to finish (and to print) and how we are doing it all over again to bring Jimmie Lunceford’s orchestra back to life for one dance-long night of music.  Please do watch the video, there are a lot of interesting things about this project, some digging into the national archives for existing arrangements (in whole or in part), and some unique things about Lunceford’s band.  Once again, I’m delighted to be working on the transcription project with a team of people dedicated to making sure this music is performed again! #teamLunceford

Ella at the Savoy: A Centennial Tribute – April 23, 2017

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In 1934, Ella Fitzgerald was a homeless teenager on the streets of Harlem with an incredible voice – she was discovered at the Apollo Theater’s famous amateur night that year and was quickly picked up by drumming powerhouse Chick Webb to perform in his orchestra. Chick Webb’s band was the most prominent of the house bands at the Savoy Ballroom, one of New York’s largest ballrooms, the only integrated ballroom in New York, and the birthplace of Lindy Hop. Before she was the First Lady of Song, Ella honed her skills as a big band singer with some of New York’s top working jazz musicians of the 1930’s.

April 25, 2017 marks Ella’s 100th birthday and, as a centennial tribute, a group of Triangle musicians has come together to celebrate her early work with the Chick Webb Orchestra and, in the years following Chick Webb’s death in 1939 at the height of the orchestra’s fame, leading the orchestra under her own name – Ella Fitzgerald and her Famous Orchestra.

Come see the show on April 23, 2017 from 7 p.m. to 9 p.m. at Sharp Nine Gallery/Durham Jazz Workshop, 4608 Industry Lane, Suite L, Durham, NC – tickets are $20.00 and you can purchase them through Brown Paper Tickets.  For more information, visit the Sharp Nine Gallery website.

11767807_4Laura Windley – vocals
Kobie Watkins – drums
Jim Crew – piano
Peter Kimosh – bass
Chip Newton – guitar
Keenan McKenzie – reeds
Aaron Hill – reeds
Dan Hitchcock – reeds
Taylor Savage – reeds
Lucian Cobb – trombone
Evan Ringel – trombone
Jim Ketch – trumpet
Kyle Santos – trumpet
Paul Rogers – trumpet

Chick Webb Night Live Stream Recording

Here it is, 3 sets (and two encores!) of Chick Webb music in all its glory at Lindy Focus 2016!  As with any tribute, we hope that the band was able to capture the magic of a night at the Savoy Ballroom, with the most famous of the Savoy’s house bands.  Much love to everyone who contributed to the transcription project to make this dream a reality!

Transcriptions by Mark Lopeman, Dan Barrett, and Keenan McKenzie.  Performed by the Jonathan Stout Lindy Focus All-Star Orchestra, with Jonathan Stout (guitar), Chris Dawson (piano), Marquis Howell (bass), Josh Collazo (drums), Gordon Au (trumpet), Ken McGee (trumpet), Jon-Erik Kellso (trumpet), Lucian Cobb (trombone), Dan Barrett (trombone), Albert Alva (reeds), Dan Levinson (reeds), Jonathan Doyle (reeds), Keenan McKenzie (reeds), and Laura Windley (vocals).

Big Band Revival: Chick Webb

sk1039-webb-chick-band-solo-shot-a-1938One of my favorite swing era bandleaders is Chick Webb, the king of the Savoy Ballroom and jazz drumming trailblazer, who incidentally hired my favorite jazz vocalist, Ella Fitzgerald, for her first gig as the “girl singer” in his band.  Chick Webb left this planet too early in 1939 and his legacy of songs lives in the recordings we listen and dance to, but the book of his arrangements is long gone.  Seeing a need and an opportunity to bring this music to life again, Michael and Jaya Gamble spearheaded an IndieGoGo campaign to raise money to transcribe 33 Chick Webb arrangements and make them available to the public following transcription and performance at Lindy Focus 2016.  The crowd funding goal of $17,000 was met in less than 24 hours and the swing dance community’s love and adoration of Chick Webb’s music is evident in this feat!

On December 29, 2016, the fruits of these labors will come to fruition in a performance of these transcribed Chick Webb charts, with Jonathan Stout leading the change with his Lindy Focus All Star Orchestra and I am beyond any measure of excited to be performing Ella Fitzgerald’s vocal tunes.  There is so much love in this project, so many people who want to share in this experience on many levels, it’s almost overwhelming for me to think about.  It’s all summarized here on the Lindy Focus page dedicated to this project, detailing the helpers, the backers, the list of songs and people who sponsored them, and the excitement continues to build up to the performance and, for some, the release of these charts so that other bands may carry this music into the future and perform it for an even bigger audience.

I am honored to be a part of the team putting all of this together, both as vocalist and working on the copyright aspects of the project.  Cheers to you all, I hope to see you on December 29 in Asheville!

Updated to add: you can now purchase arrangements at the Heritage Sounds website.